Is genetic drift real?
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00:00 GrowTalk
01:58 Introduction
21:38 Real or bro science
37:50 More bro science
42:43 Comments
55:33 News/social media
#cannabiscommunity #growingweed #gardening #harvest #photoperiod
Back crossing generally is to reinforce specific traits that you want to lock down
Its crazy not to think you just watering that plant down every time you clone that thing
Here is a new one i came across, we grow plants by the thousands every year. Took a clone of a plant that appeared normal flowered out normally. The clone is a poly. That means that the mother plant must have had polyploidism, but wasnt expressing it until it was cloned. The clone is vegged out now, and bounces back and forth from all out polyploid, back to branching out of the poly clumping, etc
Sexual reproduction is crucial (and grapefruits are a hybrid).
As kids we used to jump off the roof in Tahoe all the time. Deep snow falls. Just have biddies to dig you out. Hey Emerald cup right by me. We have room for a single or a couple.
I still thought yalls show wasn’t on YouTube anymore and was so stoked to see yall back. 😅 was listening without looking at first and thought you also had guru back, Rambo sounded similar to him but he’s filling in nicely😂 glad to have yall in my daily routine again
If i need clones i take some off my best looking plant in veg
Hell yea. I’m from Humboldt. Bought my first bong and scored a bag. The same day in Arcata yrs ago. The Plaza is Iconic.
I’ve heard that cultivators breed plants back in with themselves to stabilize the genetics and to produce consistency among the offspring.
Have a chem 91 that I’ve been cloning from clone since 97 still rocks my head!
what about bananas
The location you take the cutting from will determine branch structure. Tops maintain true structure with minimal spacing between branching. I have seen a drift in the Garlic Breath in about 3 years.
Wow always something learned thanks guys!! Harbor freight GH 😁😂
early 2000’s we cloned same 50 mother plants 20 times a year for about 5 years was northern lights and they where always great but was not legal so ya you know what happend
Ministry?
Nekrogoblikon?
I like this channel even more now
00:28:18 😅 scotty could you do this again, followed by a "loide" 😂
its a meme (drachenlord), and he is really awful. But a little funny, too. Nowadays he wants to establish a closed (but open) community, with an already burnt name ("community of freedom"..in german "kommune der freiheit" which means "strength through happiness" and was a former national socialists’ related community, in german kdf=kr*ft durch fr*ude" )
In his most recent streams he is fantasizing about that community, where you have to be naked(!) (voluntarily, of course) and which should be built on the pillars of spirituality, self-sufficiency, free love and being naked.
you can’t make this up, its just utipian.
this does make sense though as the plant grows the new growth ( closest to top) would have more time to have mutations especially after generations where the lower growth would be more similar to the rooted clone
I didn’t know that about pink grapefruit I find them to be a lot sweeter than regular grapefruit.
Rainbow gatherings are where true anarchy takes place en masse
Ministry rocks live!
Back crossing generally is to reinforce specific traits that you want to lock down
Ministry concert?
Banner was 1 for 3 including himself on the billy comment. Billy "i stole the" strings sucks. I rather support a dirty breeder.
i did clones of clones from ‘black jack’ …..when i got to the 6th time of cloning the genetics split and grew out to show the original genetics – some plants became ‘black domina’ and some became ‘jack herer’ .. both still really good flowers
Lmao me n the boys had the same revolution about "the wave" when we were trippin on mushrooms. After all the deep thought we just said ‘the wave ‘ multiple times throughout the night and died laughing every time
Some you can clone from clone and keep the terps. Some you can not clone from clone and keep the terps. For me,, I will run one cultivar to seeds. And will start from seed. I may from time to time take cuts of the parent but mostly from seed. My own seeds……. thats key in saving shit tons of cash… and keeping highest standards…
Just gotta say I’m new to the show the last few weeks and I really enjoy it I really enjoy the dynamic between you 3. You got the serious scientist, you got "the dude" and then you got the technical/guy.. its perfect.
check out a Black Sabbath cover band called Brown Sabbath, killer, with horns
Clone from a clone definitely works. if somebody tells you it doesn’t, it’s because they haven’t tried it or they heard it doesn’t and they just believe what they hear. I’ve done it so I know what I’m talking about. I know people that have cloned off of a clone literally hundreds of times.
I look foward to seeing you guys at emerald cup 2024, ill be with @skunkmagazine @bioag @Earthjuice
I loved the Train Wreck back in the day
And Rogue valley wreck!
I had a plant i kept alive for almost 10 years by cloning. It was a Lemonaid Haze before there was one available commercially.
Howdy, just wanted to make some additions to your covering of somatic mutations and genetic drift. I might have titled it something like "Genetic Drift or Genetic Mosaicism" as the paper is on the latter.
OK, SO TYPICALLY we would say something like:
SOMATIC MUTATIONS ARE NOT GENETIC DRIFT and I would point out that nowhere in the video referenced, nor the research paper the video is derived from, do we see or hear the word DRIFT.
The terminology is important here.
"Genetic drift" should generally refer ONLY to changes in a population’s gene pool over generations. Somatic mutations in an individual generally should not be termed genetic drift, as they do not contribute to changes in a population’s genetic makeup over time.
Germline mutations that propagate through generations via reproduction can contribute to TRUE genetic drift. Somatic mutations do NOT affect the gene pool and are not subject to evolutionary processes like genetic drift.
*Somatic mutations occur in non-reproductive cells and are not heritable. They can affect the individual but not the population’s gene pool.
*Germline mutations occur in reproductive cells (gametes) and can be passed to offspring. They can contribute to genetic drift at the population level over generations.
*Genetic drift refers specifically to changes in allele frequencies at the population level caused by random sampling during reproduction.
*Somatic mutations are therefore not a form of genetic drift proper, since they do not change allele frequencies in a population.
BUT it is not this SIMPLE as we know that:
*Somatic mutations can accumulate in long-lived modular organisms like plants, fungi, and some animals. This creates genetic mosaicism between cells and modules.
*In some species, the germline is not segregated early in development, allowing somatic mutations to be transferred to gametes and passed on sexually.
*This means somatic mutations could contribute to genetic drift and adaptation at the population level over generations, contrary to my claim.
*There can be multilevel selection operating both on cell lineages within an organism and on different modules/ramets/branches etc.
*So somatic genetic variation can play adaptive evolutionary roles in modular species, especially those with late germline segregation.
BUT in regards to CANNABIS as per the research paper on somatic mutation:
*In cannabis, the germline is not segregated early in development.
*Instead, the male and female flowers contain gamete-producing cells that are derived from somatic stem cell lineages.
*This means somatic mutations that occur during vegetative growth in the undifferentiated stem cells could potentially be passed on to gametes.
*Therefore, unlike organisms that segregate their germline early, somatic mutations in Cannabis modules can be transferred to gametes and offspring through sexual reproduction.
Also, check out the Nekrogoblikon interviews, where the singer does a talk show host style interview with people from other bands. Its hilarious. Spark one up and get down wit it mon!!
I think Josh nailed it on the head. More time on earth means more chances for cos.ic rays to hit the plants DNA and cause mutations. Therfore a clone of a clone of a clone has a higher chance of genetic drift.
Pretty open and shut case imo.
Where? Great tots gentlemens.
If you clone Clydesdales you wont just slowly get donkeys
Dgc 🎉
Is this why tissue cultures got so big with cannibus
Micropropagation is the way fellas!
I THINK TOM PETTYBSMOKED TOO MANY JOINTS THATS WHAT I THINK…….MO FO IS HIGH AS A FREAKIN KITE! HAVE YOU EVER SEEN DAVID BLAINE? THAT DUDE IS CLEARLYNUSING MAGIC
Only way it starts drifting is if the plant your taking clones from is sick you don’t know until you grown the plant for 5 to 10 years you guys don’t show anything and you just grow in a 2×4 that’s barely growing my friend has a shop growing the same strain 14 years since 2010 1,000s of plants I’ve grown the same strain since 2017 still the same you guys just grow by the seat of your pants all talk no show bro science acting like you know what your doing but dont fool the real growers doing it for a living 😂😂
Yes sir Scotty. A back cross will help re-introduce parental traits that may have been lost in filial generations. It also increases stability and a single back cross takes you close to 50% homozygosity I believe. It’s kind of why breeders are reversing and back crossing more these days. You remove a whole set of alleles when you reverse or back cross. You can get the stability of an F5 with a few reversals or back crosses and be much faster. Look at Ethos. Collin produces more consistent polyhybrids with these techniques. I’m excited to play with either technique
awesome topic! thanks 😃
Ive noticed after a cpl years you dont have the same thing u started with,and yey i still do it but i havent ben goin more than a cpl years
Ministry kicks ass!! Great workout music! Theives, just one fix, nwo, psalm 69…… stigmata
Yes sir Scotty. A back cross will help re-introduce parental traits that may have been lost in filial generations. It also increases stability and a single back cross takes you close to 50% homozygosity I believe. It’s kind of why breeders are reversing and back crossing more these days. You remove a whole set of alleles when you reverse or back cross. You can get the stability of an F5 with a few reversals or back crosses and be much faster. Look at Ethos. Collin produces more consistent polyhybrids with these techniques. I’m excited to play with either technique
Deleterious?! How many times can Scotty say it in one conversation?!
Used to love watching the planes over 27 in frostproof and Bartow when I lived there in the 80s and 90s scotty!
the real true original Rene cut only strain, i cant tell u how long it had been in rotation prior but had held onto that same cut since early 2000 -02 full production outdoors from the ottawa valley renfrew county south of the number 7 hwy northumberland an beyond genetically its still rene. still testing 20 22 % AFTER ran threw trimmers
Keep the same Bonzai mums for over 10 years , clones from clones along the way . Same quality , no sign of genetic drift.